Sounds like better tires and taking the spare tire/running with a near empty tank would get you into 13's
Wouldn't be too disappointed.

rod442 wrote:

If all I do is race suv's in the snow; I'm much happier.  lmao.

Come out to play once we get some snow.

My car is a lot worse for the wear of living up on North T. for a while.  Still enjoy mighty wide sliding corners out in the stix north and west of town.

If I'm reading his post correctly, he ran a best of 14.076,  his friend ran a not-best of 14.003.

Are you running an OTS map or a protune?

96 trap is about right for an OTS Stage 2 EJ205.  I trap 100 with a VF on a conservative tune.

You shouldn't be concerned about your trap IMO.  You could easily get into the 13s with a better/aggressive launch and that is right where your car should be.  This all seems 100% normal from what I have seen.

Yeah, ots cobb stg 2 - 93 octane map.  Maybe it would have helped to reset the ecu before going to the track.  I just didn't think about it.  OK, if most guys have to have a turbo upgrade to trap 100+ then Im not going to worry.  I did check the AP results and show Im still hitting the same boost numbers I was (last time I checked and had to adjust the wg arm to hit target boost).  3rd gear mostly between 15.9-17.0.

Hopefully by this time next year Ill have more mods and get the results I wanted.

Last edited by rod442 (2013-11-07 04:36:31)

in my experience, absolute garbage launches and the best launches changed my trap speed by 1mph... sounds like you need more power if you want faster traps

rod442 wrote:

I was hoping to be in the upper mid 13's (13.5-13.7) at closer to 100 maybe 101.  I know the et is achievable, but I figured a canned (ots cobb) map at the high end of target boost stg 2 (17) would get me there.  Based on some peoples traps at stock power, around 94-5; I thought I had gained more for my mods.  I know the car is faster than when I was stock, but I was only seeing 13psi before I adjusted the WG arm.

Maybe Im just being silly.  In the spring, I may do a turbo and innercooler mod, and if Im down a bit on power now, that may be the case after.  Although I have no reason to expect there is an issue.  Maybe it was headwind, shift points, whatever. 

Since the Legacy owner only ran what he did, with more mods than I have and a protune, and .5l more displacement; chances are I'm right where I should be.  /thread.  lol.

My friends Cobb ots mapped stage 2 STi ran 13.3 and a identical STi but pro tuned ran 12.9. Protune is something worth considering. Next, hitting 100mph on the stock turbo is a stretch. Stock STis hit 102-104. Hammy already mentioned a VF turbo + supporting mods put him at 100mph

Buy an STi VF series turbo STi IC STi pink injectors and a fuel pump then get a protune

with a stock TD04 turbo  if so I highly doubt it

edit: I see stock TD04 turbo WRX's hit 12s, if the turbo is capable of that why do people do VF turbo swaps 

Last edited by 2JZ (2013-11-26 09:41:03)

I would be a little dissapointed. 

I only ran my car once Stage 2 at the track and had a HORRIBLE run.  Stock I went 14.8 at 92 and my only run stage 2 it was a 14.x at 94.  I am a pretty good drag racer but the launch felt horrible and after that I told myself it isn't worth it.... this is my daily driver.

My car is MUCH faster than a 94 mph when it isn't heat soaked at the track.  I have run a good dozen or more 100 mph cars (99-04 Mustang GTS (stick and auto), 350Zs (stick and auto), G35s (stick and auto), stock 09+ WRX, Cobb Stage 1 newest generation MS3 (well, it was kind of even), and I am sure I am fogetting a bunch) on the street and have never lost to one.  I crush cars that trap in the mid 90s (R32, FRS, stock MK5 GTI, I am forgetting a ton)..... destory them.  I only get beat by cars that trap at over 100 mph....

Having a shift right at ~ 93 mph doesn't help us either.

So.... maybe your car isn't as "slow" as you think.  In todays day, a 96 mph car is pretty slow.

Here is a way to see how fast your car is if you are more worried about actual power (trap speed) VS getting a good ET at the track.

Here is a video of my car going from 40-120.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4b1LGFd5xQ

If you time it and then look at car magazine times from 40-120, you can see where it falls.  Then you can see how it stacks up with other trap speeds in magazines (sure 40-100 would also work but 120 or even 130 gives you more numbers to play with  ). 

Obviously you need a good flat road to do this.  When I did this a few years ago I had a video player (think I used real... IDK) that would break it down by 1/10th of a second and it was fun (if you are a geek like me) to stack it up against other cars like say the MS3 to see how they would do in a race.

For my car, it is clear that it should trap around 100 (I recall it being more in the 100-101 range even with slow shifting) on a good run (it was in the 30s when I took the video). It takes a little over 18 seconds to go from 40-120 (I don't have the raw video handy to show the exact time but close enough). 

According to C&D, the MS3 takes 18.5 to go from 40-120 and trapped at 99.  http://media.caranddriver.com/files/200 … -specs.pdf   The 350Z trapped at 101 and did it in 18.3 http://media.caranddriver.com/files/nissan-350z-1.pdf  Do this with several cars and you will see where you are at.


In reality, I value my trans/clutch too much to race this car at the track.... but I know what it is capable of from the times in the video and the many encounters on the street.

Last edited by Snaab9-2 (2013-11-26 19:50:51)

rod442 wrote:

Thanks for the replies.  gives me something to think about.  Really, I just need to find a friend that runs 100-102 and see where I'm at. 

My other vehicles are all faster than this car, so my sense of speed is a bit effed.  lol.  It just feels slow, no matter what I do.  The mustang runs 13.0's at 108.   Firebird runs 11.0's at 130+ and my zx14r is a 9 sec bike at more than 150 (although I haven't ran it yet).

Turbo, innercooler, injectors, and a pro tune are in order.  For sure.

Just keep in mind it is what it is. I love my buddies stroked and cam'ed 87 GT. But he also loves my 92x, so it really is relative. I probably don't need to say this but if you're looking to go fast, keep building those v8s. If you're looking to go fast around turns, to have a solid track performer, build the the wagon. But please dont think you can build a "fast" car (by today's standard) easily with a 92x. 92x's are average sport wagons stock, "quick" with the cheap mods. A fast wagon takes $$$$$ type of dough. I'm sure you know that $$$$$ into a 5.0 = 10 seconds or less.

Last edited by juniebugs (2013-11-27 09:46:09)