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#26 2005-11-22 18:15:19

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Re: New Battery - Help

coalburner400 wrote:

eek  First start, each and every time...  (let the pump prime for a moment, then hit the starter)

I did not read all of the posts....  Here's my experience:

Delco battery is the best part to come out of GM.  Years ago when I used to work in a shop, we had delcos with service dates going back 13 years.  They still passed a load test and were being replaced as a precautionary measure by their owners...

Interstate is awesome too...  Had many old interstates that were still kicking.

Stay way away from EXIDE made batteries (Sears Diehard).  EXIDE is the worlds largest battery manufacturer but instead of concentrating on quality, the just want to pro-rate you a new battery and keep you locked in.  They were the absolute worst with customer come backs < 1 year after purchase, and very few lasted beyond 3 years.

2 bits worth...

Ummmm no and no. AC Delco batterys are CRAP, especially the side terminal ones. I worked in a shop for the past 2 1/2 years and we've had numerous GM vehicles come in with starting issues. We would pull the car in, check the battery first, come to find out the positive terminal literally just broke off. How the F does that happen? A year old car, and the terminal that the bolt would screw in to, literally just fell out. Sears Diehard (I worked at Sears) are no longer made by Exide. Haven't been for a couple years now. Diehard's are made by Johnson Controls and have awesome warranties, I must admit. By a Gold and get 3 years free and the next 5 pro-rated. Sure, 5 years pro-rated sucks but guess what, it's still going to last you a helluva lot longer than those crappy Neverstarts from AutoZone or Wal-Mart or whatever. AutoZone ones have what, a 6 year warranty or something? Have fun going in to the store every year to have it replaced. Me? I'd rather not deal with the headaches and would like to go in to a store once in 8 years instead of 6 times in 6 years. I hate to break it but it's the truth. When you worked in a shop years ago and the batteries that were coming in that were 13 years old, doesn't that make sense anyways? Things were built MUCH better 15-20 years ago then they are now, true story. But the Delco's now, compared to say the Delco's you dealt with then, that's a whole different ballgame.

/ my $0.02
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#27 2005-11-22 18:49:02

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Re: New Battery - Help

yeah i dont think i ever once saw my dad replace the battery in any of our cars when i was younger, but i've basically gone through a battery every year or two (multiple vehicles) since i started driving, ive always figured it was because i was doing something wrong, now i think its just shitty batteries smile

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#28 2005-11-22 18:49:22

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Re: New Battery - Help

You might be right about that Dan... That's why I disclosed the time frame.  Thanks for your current perspective.

The last 2 batteries I've purchased have been interstate and I know these to be the best, generally available, battery made - for the money.

Add another cent to my tab please...

...guess everything GM makes now days sucks  confused


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#29 2005-11-22 18:52:57

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Re: New Battery - Help

igotskraped wrote:

coalburner400 wrote:

eek  First start, each and every time...  (let the pump prime for a moment, then hit the starter)

I did not read all of the posts....  Here's my experience:

Delco battery is the best part to come out of GM.  Years ago when I used to work in a shop, we had delcos with service dates going back 13 years.  They still passed a load test and were being replaced as a precautionary measure by their owners...

Interstate is awesome too...  Had many old interstates that were still kicking.

Stay way away from EXIDE made batteries (Sears Diehard).  EXIDE is the worlds largest battery manufacturer but instead of concentrating on quality, the just want to pro-rate you a new battery and keep you locked in.  They were the absolute worst with customer come backs < 1 year after purchase, and very few lasted beyond 3 years.

2 bits worth...

Ummmm no and no. AC Delco batterys are CRAP, especially the side terminal ones. I worked in a shop for the past 2 1/2 years and we've had numerous GM vehicles come in with starting issues. We would pull the car in, check the battery first, come to find out the positive terminal literally just broke off. How the F does that happen? A year old car, and the terminal that the bolt would screw in to, literally just fell out. Sears Diehard (I worked at Sears) are no longer made by Exide. Haven't been for a couple years now. Diehard's are made by Johnson Controls and have awesome warranties, I must admit. By a Gold and get 3 years free and the next 5 pro-rated. Sure, 5 years pro-rated sucks but guess what, it's still going to last you a helluva lot longer than those crappy Neverstarts from AutoZone or Wal-Mart or whatever. AutoZone ones have what, a 6 year warranty or something? Have fun going in to the store every year to have it replaced. Me? I'd rather not deal with the headaches and would like to go in to a store once in 8 years instead of 6 times in 6 years. I hate to break it but it's the truth. When you worked in a shop years ago and the batteries that were coming in that were 13 years old, doesn't that make sense anyways? Things were built MUCH better 15-20 years ago then they are now, true story. But the Delco's now, compared to say the Delco's you dealt with then, that's a whole different ballgame.

/ my $0.02
Dan

Ok, Ill throw in my 2 cents...

I used to work for Nissan Dealers for 20 years....About 8 years ago they switched to Johnson Controls Batteries and we had ALOT of problems with them...After a couple years they switched to Interstate and the problems went way down.....I do agree with Dan on SIDE POST batteries in general, and Delco specifically but I havent seen too many problems with Delco top post........just my opinion.........FYI saab replacement batteries are made by Interstate.

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#30 2005-11-22 22:55:01

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Re: New Battery - Help

True true on the Delco top post but yes the side post batteries = garbage. I will admit though with my experience from the past 2 years we did have a number of batteries come back for warranty issues. The only reason I say a number of battiers is because the store I worked at was one of the bigger ones in our area as far as sales is concerned. We were a $3M/year store compared to the other $1-1.5M/year stores within 100 mile radius. Not to mention I think it'd be safe to say there are also more Sears stores then Nissan Dealerships, and people most likely would rather go to a Sears whom they've dealt with for the past 30 someodd years compared to a car dealership. Scott, since you work at a dealership, who are the kind of people that come back to dealers time and time again for service, warranty or not? It just seems like no matter what, people refuse to go to dealers unless it is warranty work. But I also know people go there just for routine maintainance. Are they the ones that nitpick over everything, making sure the dealer does everything so they don't get F'ed out of their warranty?
Dan

Sorry for the sidetrack, just always wondered about that...

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#31 2005-11-22 23:44:59

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Re: New Battery - Help

igotskraped wrote:

True true on the Delco top post but yes the side post batteries = garbage. I will admit though with my experience from the past 2 years we did have a number of batteries come back for warranty issues. The only reason I say a number of battiers is because the store I worked at was one of the bigger ones in our area as far as sales is concerned. We were a $3M/year store compared to the other $1-1.5M/year stores within 100 mile radius. Not to mention I think it'd be safe to say there are also more Sears stores then Nissan Dealerships, and people most likely would rather go to a Sears whom they've dealt with for the past 30 someodd years compared to a car dealership. Scott, since you work at a dealership, who are the kind of people that come back to dealers time and time again for service, warranty or not? It just seems like no matter what, people refuse to go to dealers unless it is warranty work. But I also know people go there just for routine maintainance. Are they the ones that nitpick over everything, making sure the dealer does everything so they don't get F'ed out of their warranty?
Dan

Sorry for the sidetrack, just always wondered about that...

Hey Dan...Good questions.....

Like I said, I have worked for car dealers for over 20 years (since 83) Man Im old... I know I am biased but... We get all kinds...Believe it or not there are people who think dealer techicians are the best...(me being one of them) maybe not Saab techs regarding 92x's but generally speaking....
They get the best training...have the best special tools, have the best facilities and have the best support (factory) and also believe it or not...all dealers arent crooks...

I know dealerships have a very bad reputation, but I think it is not deserved....All of the dealers I have worked for are honest and are trying to treat customers fair.....sure, they are out to make a profit, but one has to realize dealers have a much higher overhead than most indy. shops...Also, we cannot ever say, "that's a dealer item only" like indys. can when the going gets tough...We are the place of last resort...
Regarding "warranty work"....Its funny how all the squeaks and rattles "disappear"as soon as the warranty has expired.... roll
Hope this answers your questions....
Cheers,

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#32 2005-11-23 13:21:50

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Re: New Battery - Help

iota wrote:

My car has been taking two cranks to start when its cold out, so I think it's time for a new battery -- I need to get one tonight at Autozone, does anyone have any reccomendation? I don't want to break the bank. Tell me everything you know about batteries.

I also saw your post regarding getting a new alternator.   I'm curious since I noticed my car isn't starting so easy since I got to Vermont.   One day it was 40 degrees and the next morning trying to start at 15 degrees and it tried really hard.  I thought it was odd the first time but it has done it every day since.   I feel like I'm starting an old car.  I don't have to turn it twice just takes forever in the first turn.  What did the dealer have to say or do you know how to tell the difference between an alternator and battery issue? 

Thanks!


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#33 2005-11-23 17:41:02

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NewtonGirl wrote:

I feel like I'm starting an old car.  I don't have to turn it twice just takes forever in the first turn.  What did the dealer have to say or do you know how to tell the difference between an alternator and battery issue?

Thats exactly how mine felt... sometimes it will fire on first try and it just felt like an old timey car "vrr...vrr...vrr...vrr....vrrrooom!"

I don't know how to tell, unfortunately

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#34 2005-11-23 17:55:13

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Re: New Battery - Help

what about the optima batteries?


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#35 2009-11-12 11:23:38

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Re: New Battery - Help

Bump. 

It's been roughly 5 years on the same battery I presume.  (Not exactly sure)  I don't want to be stranded anywhere, should I go ahead and buy a new one? 

Relevant info:  Once in a while I stall the car (I know) and upon restarting it, nothing happens 2-3 X until finally it engages and starts.  Other times it takes one try and VROOOM VROOM. 

Don't want to break the bank either.  Oh yeah, I just bought a used sub and amp, do I need a stronger battery for the added ICE?


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#36 2009-11-12 13:53:28

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Re: New Battery - Help

spider spider spider will be mad you dusted them off this 4 year old thread.

did you finaly get it installed ??  a monoblock sub amp will drain the battery. I do not think your Alpine amp will be a battery killer, so i would not worry.

regarding your stalling, stop using 87 octane 711/ampm gas !!  biggrin

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#37 2009-11-12 14:14:10

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i saw this thread and was like "WTF? battery swap?" haha, this is a VERY old thread

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#38 2009-11-12 17:29:19

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iota wrote:

i saw this thread and was like "WTF? battery swap?" haha, this is a VERY old thread

That didn't answer the question.  wink


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#39 2009-11-12 18:02:39

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I ended up getting a Duralast Gold battery from Autozone for like $75 (+/- $10 my memory isn't good) and it worked fine for me, I had a 200watt amp and aftermarket stereo.

When you are starting the car, the thing you are describing (won't restart on first crank) I think is from gas, not electrical -- just turn the key to "ON" for about 2 sec (while youre putting on seatbelt and checking makeup in mirror) then crank it and it will fire right up.

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#40 2009-11-13 01:13:10

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I like the update on the original post.   biggrin 

So should I go ahead and get another battery? 

What's the average life expectancy of these OEM batteries?


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