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#1 2008-04-30 02:00:27

elligur
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Roof rack system?

I wold like to carry a kayak and maybe a bike on the roof.

Any recommendations to the best system? Yakima or Thule or something else?

Thanks.


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#2 2008-04-30 11:54:56

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Re: Roof rack system?

sigh. use the search feature please.


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#3 2008-04-30 13:49:32

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Re: Roof rack system?

Both Yakima and Thule make a good system.  I have used both in the past but now only have Yakima, but I don’t use it on my 92x.

One thing to consider is that with a longer load like a kayak is the spacing of the bars – typically the further apart the bars are spaced the longer load you can carry.  Yakima, for whatever reason, does not recommend the use of their short roof adapter on the 92x.  Thus they limit the length of surf/sail boards to 10 ft and canoes to 14 ft on a Yakima rack installed on the 92x.  Thule does show an installation with a short roof adapter and has no limitations on length, but they don’t have length limitations on their rack without the adapter either.

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#4 2008-04-30 14:05:13

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Re: Roof rack system?

arrow-up The longer spacing btw load bars is the reason I went for Impreza/WRX/Outback Sport roof rails from any one of those cars, mounted (factory style) on my car.  Longest possible spacing between load bars.

Alas, the maximum load on the factory rails is 100 lbs, but at least it'll be a stable 100 lbs.

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#5 2008-04-30 14:41:11

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Re: Roof rack system?

I have the Thule system for mine and I must admit I am not a fan at all of how close you need to mount the towers. The fit kit makes you mount the two towers only 20ish inches apart. I only use mine for skis, and based on the how close the load bars are, I would be kinda scared to mount a bike or kayak up there. Just my 2 cents. If you went with roof rails from a WRX you would have the luxury of avoiding the tower issue, but that also requires a little more work on your part.


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#6 2008-04-30 14:56:30

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Re: Roof rack system?

Get the WRX roof rails first, no question. I've used both on my car.

It's janky as hell trying to use the rain gutter clamps. They fit too close together to correctly hold a load up. Once you have the rails you can position a load correctly and much more securely. I wouldn't carry anything heavier than a snowboard on the rain gutter setup, but I know other people here have no problems.


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#7 2008-05-06 17:13:20

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Re: Roof rack system?

I agree about the Thule racks towers being too close together.  I've been using mine for both road/ mountain bikes and snowboards / skis.

Especially when it comes to the winter gear, I feel like the towers are too close together and the spacing doesn't lend its self well to snowboard bindings. 

Also the bike attachments are not perfectly level and lean slightly forward so that when it rains, the water doesn't drain out the back of the V shaped channels, instead it rolls forward towards the fork mount, where it collects.  I am using Yakima Viper with the Thule towers but also observed this with the Thule Peloton which I used briefly on my 92x.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jay.schubert/Saab92X/photo#5177659731795228514


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#8 2008-05-07 09:05:14

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Re: Roof rack system?

you need a short roof adapter for the thule racks.  yakima could use one too, but you can space them further apart than spec to carry a longer load.  I carried a 16'6" canoe from wisconsin to new jersey with no problems.  If it sticks over the windshield, it must be tied down at the bow.

and use the search function, dammit.  this is a pretty common discussion.


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#9 2008-05-07 16:47:43

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Re: Roof rack system?

The rack I have came with my car and appears to have the short roof adapter.  Yet I still have this issue with what I perceive to be a pretty short distance between the feet.  Part of me wonders if the "load bar" was chopped by the previous owner or something because it isn't long enough to allow placement of the rear feet very far back.

I searched for the dimensions of the short roof adapter load bar on Thule's site but didn't find it.  Can anyone else whose got this setup let me know how long your short roof adapter load bars are?

Does this look right?

http://lh5.ggpht.com/jay.schubert/R9q-F_l_t2I/AAAAAAAAAXc/072D7xDKeZ4/IMG_3616.jpg?imgmax=800

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#10 2008-05-07 18:34:13

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Re: Roof rack system?

One problem is that you don't have the front towers as far forward as you could.  Move the fronts as far forward as possible so that your fairing is almost to the windshield.  Then move the rear towers back towards the center of the window frame on the rear door.  Even if you do this though you really have already maxed out the spread you will achieve with this system.  For Best results with this rack you really need to eliminate the stretch kit completely.  Stretch kits are not designed for our cars and they make no sense.

A better solution is to do the roof rail swap, it solves these problems.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/gonzocycle/moab/Moabapril2008032.jpg

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#11 2008-05-07 18:40:02

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Re: Roof rack system?

jay.schubert wrote:

Also the bike attachments are not perfectly level and lean slightly forward so that when it rains, the water doesn't drain out the back of the V shaped channels, instead it rolls forward towards the fork mount, where it collects.  I am using Yakima Viper with the Thule towers but also observed this with the Thule Peloton which I used briefly on my 92x.

http://picasaweb.google.com/jay.schubert/Saab92X/photo#5177659731795228514

ALL fork mount bike trays from Every company do this, it is inherent in the design.  It has nothing to do with the 92x, the rack fitment on the 92x or anything else.  In all actuality, when using the WRX roof rails this problem is lessened due to the dimensions of the rails and the roof line of the 92x..


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#12 2008-05-07 19:12:16

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Re: Roof rack system?

I'm not sure I have the same system (Thule kit 1210), but according to the installation instructions the front tower should be 170mm from the top of the windshield and the distance between the crossbars is 650mm.

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#13 2008-05-08 08:28:47

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Re: Roof rack system?

if you'd search one of the 5 or 6 other rack threads, you'd see multiple posts by us here that tell you the crossbar spread in the instructions is a guideline, not a rule.


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#14 2008-05-08 10:20:11

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Re: Roof rack system?

arrow-up word.   smile One should always live life by guidelines rather than rules.


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#15 2008-05-08 19:40:50

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Re: Roof rack system?

elligur wrote:

I wold like to carry a kayak and maybe a bike on the roof.

Any recommendations to the best system? Yakima or Thule or something else?

Thanks.

Try the Thule Euro rack available from Cheam Subaru in the UK if the exchange rate doesn't scare you. The system has a higher weight capacity than racks using WRX rails.
I've used it to haul a 12 ft, 70 lb, 2-man kayak for two seasons. I no longer use the saddles after finding it easier to just rest the boat upside down on the bar's rubber strips. Thule Fast Aero accessories like bike carriers slide into the bar slots without adaptors. I have a friend that owns an '06 WRX considering the same system after deleting his rails for a cleaner look. The stock WRX rails aren't as strong as these Euro spec towers.

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img=410082


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#16 2008-05-08 22:54:03

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Re: Roof rack system?

arrow-up What IS the weight limit of the Euro spec towers?


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#17 2008-05-09 05:00:46

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Re: Roof rack system?

Scargo wrote:

arrow-up What IS the weight limit of the Euro spec towers?

From the manual when I did my install....

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/Rbothell/Page1-1.jpg

167.5 lbs


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#18 2008-05-09 14:15:04

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Re: Roof rack system?

Eurospek towers ftw  star


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#19 2008-05-09 20:11:04

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Re: Roof rack system?

Methodman wrote:

Scargo wrote:

arrow-up What IS the weight limit of the Euro spec towers?

From the manual when I did my install....

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/Rbothell/Page1-1.jpg

167.5 lbs

Thx


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#20 2020-08-16 14:35:08

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Re: Roof rack system?

Shickalee wrote:

Are the roof rails from a 2005 92x Aero the same as the WRX rails?

SHUT UP
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