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#1 2016-07-11 14:40:46

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Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

The 9-2x is getting a little long in the tooth at 148k and have started the search for the next car. It's in great mechanical shape and runs great (with ice cold A/C, a must in SC), but is cosmetically a little rough (terrible Subie paint and a little rust that followed it south (but stopped in its tracks once in SC). It's been a great car, and I am the second owner since new - I've had it since early 2007.

Having driven a 2015 Mustang Ecoboost on the track last September, I have to say I was impressed in general. I didn't expect such a great car from FoMoCo. The only thing I didn't like was how that car looked, when compared with the previous generation Mustang. And yes, I know that the rear suspensions are completely different between the two.

I think that I have narrowed it down to the following: a 2013 or 2014 Mustang GT Premium with the Brembo brake package.

I seem to recall that another person on this site made the same transition from 9-2x to Mustang, and am curious how that turned out.

My other vehicle is an SUV, so there is no need for the utility that the 9-2x offers. I drove a 2014 GT Premium today (without the BBP) and think that this is my next car - it was comfortable to drive, and surprisingly docile for a car with 420 hp under the hood. I have two young boys that would fit fine in the back, and the trunk is decently sized for moderate-distance road trips.

What else should I consider? I got a 2015 Camaro as a rental and HATED it, so that's out.

What could I get for the 9-2x? $4,000? See the sig for the mod list - the car's overall condition is good to very good (especially mechanically - there is nothing wrong with it!)

Anyone want my 9-2x?

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#2 2016-07-11 15:49:35

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

If you are looking at Mustangs, be sure to get the option for AC seats smile


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#3 2016-07-11 16:17:13

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

I didn't know that cooled seats were an option on these cars - but I think that getting the Brembos and/or the track pack means that you can't get the comfort/convenience packages.

I found this beauty - coupe price for a convertible... I really like the sueded seats that the GT/CS comes with...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta … /overview/  eek

As far as colors are concerned, I would do anything BUT white/black/bright red... I really like the blue metallic.


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#4 2016-07-11 16:22:23

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

Convertible Mustang? That screams rental car in Hawaii to me.  spider


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#5 2016-07-11 16:23:51

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

krazykarguy wrote:

As far as colors are concerned, I would do anything BUT white/black/bright red... I really like the blue metallic.

I like Grabber Blue and Gotta Have It Green the best  cool


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#6 2016-07-11 16:24:45

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

ikbrown wrote:

Convertible Mustang? That screams rental car in Hawaii to me.  spider

I actually think I sold a convertible Mustang that was a prior Hawaii rental here at work  lol


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#7 2016-07-11 16:26:01

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

I wouldn't touch a pre-2015 Mustang personally.  I want IRS.


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#8 2016-07-11 16:28:35

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

ikbrown wrote:

Convertible Mustang? That screams rental car in Hawaii to me.  spider

Not with:
Brembos  checkmark
19" wheels  checkmark
M/T  checkmark
5.0 V-8  checkmark

I'd wager that nearly every ex-rental Mustang 'vert is a V-6 A/T on 17" wheels...


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#9 2016-07-11 16:29:23

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

drewsro wrote:

krazykarguy wrote:

As far as colors are concerned, I would do anything BUT white/black/bright red... I really like the blue metallic.

I like Grabber Blue and Gotta Have It Green the best  cool

Grabber Blue is too close to 'Smurf' and Porta-Potti' for me.

Gotta-Have It Green reminds me of Shrek.


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#10 2016-07-11 18:29:39

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

krazykarguy wrote:

ikbrown wrote:

Convertible Mustang? That screams rental car in Hawaii to me.  spider

Not with:
Brembos  checkmark
19" wheels  checkmark
M/T  checkmark
5.0 V-8  checkmark

I'd wager that nearly every ex-rental Mustang 'vert is a V-6 A/T on 17" wheels...

I 100% agree with that, however, it does not change how I view convertible Mustangs as a whole.  biggrin

Get a coupe  cool


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#11 2016-07-11 19:39:19

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

With IRS


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#12 2016-07-12 12:02:18

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

I'm not going to track or AutoX the car, and have no plans to modify it in any meanigful way - so the suspension that's under the rear of the car is irrelevant.

In addition, I still do not like the looks of the current MY2015+ Mustang.

Honestly, I think that the hardest part of this will be convincing the wife that we can 'afford' it. We already have a car payment on our other car, and she has gotten used to having only one for quite some time now. She also seems to think that the 9-2x is going to last forever - but I suspect that it's going to start being a more expensive car to own as the months pass... It's been cheap to own thus far, mostly because I have experienced very few failures - but there are a lot of original parts (148.5k miles and rising) on the car:
- Clutch and release system
- three of the CV axles
- all of the wheel bearings
- O2 sensors (although the rear one is more or less ignored by the tune)
- Entire A/C system
- All bushings / mounts / etc.

I have kept up with every fluid change since I've owned it (oil every 3k, everything else every 30k), and the timing belt and ancillary components got swapped right at 105k. I've even addressed all of the 'weak points' of this car - PS pump rebuilt, radiator replaced and upgraded, RF axle replaced, etc. I may have a ticking time bomb - or maybe I don't - but at the very least, the clutch has to be on the short list, especially on a stage 2 car, right?


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#13 2016-07-12 12:57:55

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

I mean you still plan to drive it right?  lol


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#14 2016-07-12 14:09:01

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

krazykarguy wrote:

I'm not going to track or AutoX the car, and have no plans to modify it in any meanigful way - so the suspension that's under the rear of the car is irrelevant.

In addition, I still do not like the looks of the current MY2015+ Mustang.

Honestly, I think that the hardest part of this will be convincing the wife that we can 'afford' it. We already have a car payment on our other car, and she has gotten used to having only one for quite some time now. She also seems to think that the 9-2x is going to last forever - but I suspect that it's going to start being a more expensive car to own as the months pass... It's been cheap to own thus far, mostly because I have experienced very few failures - but there are a lot of original parts (148.5k miles and rising) on the car:
- Clutch and release system
- three of the CV axles
- all of the wheel bearings
- O2 sensors (although the rear one is more or less ignored by the tune)
- Entire A/C system
- All bushings / mounts / etc.

I have kept up with every fluid change since I've owned it (oil every 3k, everything else every 30k), and the timing belt and ancillary components got swapped right at 105k. I've even addressed all of the 'weak points' of this car - PS pump rebuilt, radiator replaced and upgraded, RF axle replaced, etc. I may have a ticking time bomb - or maybe I don't - but at the very least, the clutch has to be on the short list, especially on a stage 2 car, right?

I'd rather have an affordable payment and factory warranty instead of uncertainty on a high mileage car. Sounds like you have taken excellent care of the car and probably don't beat on it much either. Still, 150,000 miles on a drivetrain as busy as a Subaru's with all those original parts. I'm certain you're going to have failures in the not-so-distant future, just have no idea which ones. If the center diff goes (spider gear?), that'd be a tiny financial haymaker. If axles and bearings go, no big deal. Even the clutch and flywheel. All of those being replaced are more or less adding some value back.


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#15 2016-07-12 15:00:13

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

Well, in all honesty, there is a little part of me that wants a catastrophic failure to happen on the Saabaru so that I have a real reason to move on. But that's a different issue - because it will leave me with essentially a worthless parts car, instead of the $4k I could possibly get for it now.

FWIW, I don't baby the car - I have a suspicion that cars like to get thrashed on once in a while. I'm not launching the car or doing donuts, but trips to redline are far from infrequent.

I will certainly not be doing any preventative maintenance on the car (i.e. proactively replacing things). As things fail/get noisy/wear out, they will get fixed. Otherwise I'll just keep driving it.

A Mustang comes with a 3/36 bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 5/60 powertrain warranty, so a '13 or a '14 won't have a significant amount of coverage remaining. However, I tend to think that most modern cars seldom need this coverage anyways - so I hadn't even considered it as a deciding factor. I do all of my own maintenance and work on the cars, and a new car is just a new challenge and an excuse to increase the tools in the garage.


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#16 2016-07-12 18:25:21

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

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Well, in all honesty, there is a little part of me that wants a catastrophic failure to happen on the Saabaru so that I have a real reason to move on. But that's a different issue - because it will leave me with essentially a worthless parts car, instead of the $4k I could possibly get for it now.

FWIW, I don't baby the car - I have a suspicion that cars like to get thrashed on once in a while. I'm not launching the car or doing donuts, but trips to redline are far from infrequent.

I will certainly not be doing any preventative maintenance on the car (i.e. proactively replacing things). As things fail/get noisy/wear out, they will get fixed. Otherwise I'll just keep driving it.

A Mustang comes with a 3/36 bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 5/60 powertrain warranty, so a '13 or a '14 won't have a significant amount of coverage remaining. However, I tend to think that most modern cars seldom need this coverage anyways - so I hadn't even considered it as a deciding factor. I do all of my own maintenance and work on the cars, and a new car is just a new challenge and an excuse to increase the tools in the garage.

Doesn't sound you're all that conflicted on this.


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#17 2017-01-16 09:51:17

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

So now that my wife is getting annoyed with the 'one vehicle' solution, she has started to warm to the idea of getting another car.

We went and looked at a 2013 GT Premium on Saturday. I was excited about it as it was the first car to turn up local to me that had a Saddle brown leather interior. It was a dark blue and had the track package (Boss 302 oil cooler, radiator and Torsen rear diff), Brembo brakes, navigation, and reverse camera/sensors. The biggest mark on this car was that it had 58k miles on it, kind of higher than I wanted.

Anyway, the car smelled like that stuff that rental car places spray in cars that get smoked in, it had three spots of the notorious '10-'14 Mustang hood corrosion issues, and the black trim around the windows and between the tail lights had some serious fading issues. It also appeared to be  detailed within an inch of it's life. If none of those issues were there, I would have bought the car.

The search continues for my Mustang 'unicorn' - A Grey metallic GT Premium with Saddle leather and Brembos. I have yet to see one come up since I started this search half a year ago. Pretty sure I will need to settle with black leather.


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#18 2017-01-23 11:12:01

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

The search continues...

Went to a dealership yesterday to look at a Silver/black convertible at a ridiculous low price.

Car was still locked in a service bay, so I could not check it out closer. At least I only wasted 15 minutes waiting for the salesman him to "go check on the car" to find out after talking to him that the car is an automatic... mad It was listed on cars.com as a '6-speed'.

I really wanted this one to be right because the price was amazing. sad


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#19 2017-01-23 11:21:11

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This car also checks all the boxes, AND has a glass roof. Problem is, that it's been for sale for 4 months - very non-typical for Mustang GT's. Makes me wonder what's wrong with it... Plus the price has been as high as $25k, and as low as $22.8k, bounces about +/- $500 a week.  confused

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https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta … /overview/


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#20 2017-01-23 11:28:55

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the Autocheck shows a moderate damage accident, and a lien action.  Those would be a couple of red flags for me, worthy of investigating


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#21 2017-01-23 11:44:17

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

I saw the accident - but am not averse to checking it out. We had a Honda Pilot with a similar ding on the AutoCheck, with the subframe getting completely replaced.

The car is currently at a dealership, I doubt that there is any loan/lien issues.

Again, the length of time the car has been or sale might be an indicator of a low-standard repair. Can't tell without seeing it in person.


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#22 2017-02-01 10:02:37

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

E-mailed the dealership on the red car for the third time - this time directly from their website (as opposed to cars.com). Not getting a good feeling about this one.

Silver/black convertible that was a 'great price' got it's price jacked by $4200 since I originally posted ($22.6k to $26.8k).

Showed the wife a convertible, and despite her being the cheerleader for a drop top, she noted that the car "looks kind of feminine with the top down. Maybe you shouldn't get a convertible."  mad

So the search continues, but exclusively for a coupe.

However - if a Sterling Gray/Saddle/6-sp/Brembo convertible shows up in my area, I'm all over that...


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#23 2017-02-01 16:02:21

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Re: Matt's now-completed quest for the perfect 2013-2014 Ford Mustang GT

Big thanks for drewsro for giving a CarFax for the red Mustang.

Turns out that the 'moderate damage' listed on the AutoCheck report is listed as an accident on the CarFax with a car vs. tree incident with moderate R/H rear, side, and minor undercarriage damage.

I have been in touch with the dealership, the car looks to have Flowmaster 'American Thunder' axlebacks on it. A dealer tech is going to confirm later today. If they are anything BUT the Flowmaster 'Outlaw' axlebacks (read: factory mufflers replaced with straight-through resonators), I will check it out this weekend. It's a 2+ hour one way drive for me, so I need to make sure that the car is not a letdown.


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#24 2017-02-03 09:47:05

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Red car is confirmed to have the 'quieter' Flowmaster exhaust. I have a loan approval in hand (2.84%  banana for 60 months), and a wife signed on to the road trip on Saturday (dealership is 2+ hours away).

On a whim, I drove a different '14 GT yesterday because it was local and gray. Previous owner had replaced both of the mufflers and resonators with Cherry Bombs. That car was stupid loud - I could not believe it was featured on a mainstream dealer lot. The previous owner also had managed to wear off almost all of the leather on the steering wheel in 37k miles  eek. No thanks!


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#25 2017-02-03 09:55:35

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To be fair, the steering wheels wear out very fast. You have to constantly keep the rear in control and from murdering people  star

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