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#76 2016-01-27 18:17:55

Marz_wants_92x
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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

myzislow wrote:

Marz_wants_92x wrote:

cant seem to upload my graph.

315whp / 290wtq at 18lbs, conservative for 5spd. and ran out of injectors. stg 87!!

What turbo and dyno?

tomei 8265 (internally gated) , dynojet.

2.5 swap. minor head work, manley pistons, catless up-pipe, catless turboback, K&N short intake, perrin inlet, sti top mount, walbro 255, ID 725, tgv deletes. cobb ebc

Last edited by Marz_wants_92x (2016-01-27 18:19:31)


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#77 2016-01-28 19:39:21

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Marz_wants_92x wrote:

myzislow wrote:

Marz_wants_92x wrote:

cant seem to upload my graph.

315whp / 290wtq at 18lbs, conservative for 5spd. and ran out of injectors. stg 87!!

What turbo and dyno?

tomei 8265 (internally gated) , dynojet.

2.5 swap. minor head work, manley pistons, catless up-pipe, catless turboback, K&N short intake, perrin inlet, sti top mount, walbro 255, ID 725, tgv deletes. cobb ebc

Very nice build, I bet it's a blast  driving

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/myzislow/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-01-28-18-38-45_zps3vylnbfh.png

My recent retune with bigger injectors (id 1000s) and a 3 port, still stock vf30. Boost peaks a hair under 20 and tapers to 15 up top. I gained almost 30 ft-lb of torque over my last tune. The 3 port really helped with boost response and power down low. Ready for a dom 1.5xtr sooner or later, but for now the car is a blast to drive as is.

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#78 2016-01-29 21:16:49

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

myzislow wrote:

Marz_wants_92x wrote:

myzislow wrote:


What turbo and dyno?

tomei 8265 (internally gated) , dynojet.

2.5 swap. minor head work, manley pistons, catless up-pipe, catless turboback, K&N short intake, perrin inlet, sti top mount, walbro 255, ID 725, tgv deletes. cobb ebc

Very nice build, I bet it's a blast  driving

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/myzislow/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-01-28-18-38-45_zps3vylnbfh.png

My recent retune with bigger injectors (id 1000s) and a 3 port, still stock vf30. Boost peaks a hair under 20 and tapers to 15 up top. I gained almost 30 ft-lb of torque over my last tune. The 3 port really helped with boost response and power down low. Ready for a dom 1.5xtr sooner or later, but for now the car is a blast to drive as is.

ah yes, very fun. i will be replacing the 725 injectors with 1000 soon and installing a new fuel pump and we will be back on the dyno for a retune, and future will consist of an ewg. the 3 port makes a huge difference, i have installed them on many cars (I work at Precision Tuning in NJ) its pretty much a must have on all the cars we service.


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#79 2017-01-01 21:15:47

Rodman
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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Myzislow, that's impressive torque, much better than my 18g setup.


2005 satin gray metalic aero, sold. 06 wrx, adios!
2005 black aero, rescue project, jdm STi ver 7 drivetrain.
2005 desert silver aero, work horse JDM EJ205 AVCS
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#80 2017-07-19 14:08:11

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

It has been over a year since weve done anything with the old girl.

As a refresher, our 2001 Impreza RS had(power wise):

[LIST]
[*]A full version 8 JDM WRX STI swap
    [*]     The the version 8 EJ207 engine is still stock; it didnt seem right break down a perfectly health motor at the time
    [*]    Version 8 STI 6-speed
    [*]    We did the 5114 conversion from a 07 STI
[*]Custom 3″ catless turbo back
[*]Custom FMIC with a ridiculously large IC core
[*]Big MAF intake
[*]SteamSpeed silicone inlet
[*]ID1000 injectors + a Walbro 255 lph pump
[*]SteamSpeed STX 71 JB turbo for JDM STI twin scroll
[/LIST]
https://blog.steamspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/sub-stx71-ts-10_1000x1000_front1.png
In that iteration, it made ~360 whp at PRE facility on pump gas.   For comparison, the SteamSpeed STX 71 on a 2015 STI made about 420 whp on the same day.  With that turbo it was rewarding to push the car, and if you kept the revs up, you could keep it in boost, but realistically it was a 4.5k+ RPM turbo on a stock EJ207.

[Domnio V3]
We wanted to do something a little more responsive.  Enter the SteamSpeed STX 67R+ BB turbo for JDM STI.
https://blog.steamspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/sub-stx67r_ts-10_1000x1000_front1.png
We would manufacture small batches of this turbo, and we would sell them all out before we could install one in Domino, but we able to finally get one installed.  It has the smaller 67mm compressor which should make it more responsive, but the + means that it still has a GTX30 spec turbine which is a little better suited for a 2.5l.  I think a GTX29 size wheel would be perfect for the EJ207.  Next update to the turbo we can make the change.  ��

The STX 67 wheel did get us close to 4k RPM, but it still feels big.  In fact, doing pulls, it feels similar to the 71; however, everywhere else, it is night and day.  The BB CHRA is super responsive.  Going on and off the petal, the turbo is a lot more responsive.  It could also be related to the fact that we went to speed density from a MAF based tune.

What is the final result?   It made about 10 whp less with a 4 psi more boost.  Not a bad trade off.

[Dyno Plot]
https://blog.steamspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Scan_20170718-768x594.png

https://blog.steamspeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/WP_20170710_12_48_50_Pro-1038x576.jpg

[Next Steps]
The turbo still feels a little big.  Andy at FTW thought going to a top mount could give back about 500 RPM of spool.  It would probably be best for our usage of the car, but for vanity reasons we like having the huge FMIC.  We could just go to a 2.5l displacement, but it seems like it goes against the spirit of the ej207 swap.

Where do you think we should take the build next?  Let us know what you think.

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#81 2017-07-19 19:42:07

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Sounds like you are setup for e85 but not running it for some reason....  If you aren't going to turn up the boost and run e85 then put a TMIC back on.  A good turbo blanket might move you a few RPMs back as well.


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#82 2017-07-19 22:05:55

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Not going to be able to throw very much boost at it on e85 with only id1000s and a 255 in the tank.

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#83 2017-07-20 07:16:21

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

uhhh, sure you can...
I'm running 850cc injectors and I can run 24psi easy on my more aggressive tune.  Assuming the name references a 1000cc flow then it's got plenty of room.


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#84 2017-07-20 09:07:54

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Uhhhh, not ideally. Whats your IDC on your e85 tune? And what kind  of 850cc are you running? My tuner(one of the best Subaru specific tuners on the west coast) said Id be extremely limited with my id1000s, 255 walbro and a dom 1.5. He basically said it would be a waste of time, and most definitely would be treading the line of safety, unless we kept boost low....on e85 that doesn't sound too fun. When i switch to flex fuel on the carberry im definitely throwing 1300s in and an aem320 for good measure.

Through reading between the lines it seems you have a pretty well modded aero. Why don't you share? Some people on this forum still actually own a 92x, and would enjoy reading and seeing what you've done with it.

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#85 2017-07-20 11:27:29

countriccati
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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

My tuner gave me similar info about E85--since you need to flow so much more of it you need bigger injectors to really make bigger power once you're at a certain level.

myzislow wrote:

Through reading between the lines it seems you have a pretty well modded aero. Why don't you share? Some people on this forum still actually own a 92x, and would enjoy reading and seeing what you've done with it.

arrow-up arrow-up arrow-up been getting hints for years now...we all really would enjoy hearing about it


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#86 2017-07-23 09:53:40

myzislow
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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Crickets..

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#87 2017-07-25 17:39:32

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

Hard to say for sure, but guessing this is his car:

https://dyno.cobbtuning.com/dyno/index. … 0,0,1LE,47


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#88 2017-07-26 17:17:27

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

countriccati wrote:

Hard to say for sure, but guessing this is his car:

https://dyno.cobbtuning.com/dyno/index. … 0,0,1LE,47

Took a bit of sleuthing and found it eh?  Or did you just go back one page on this topic and see where I posted my dyno and later described how anyone could find it?   star

Well this will blow your fucking mind!


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#89 2017-07-26 19:00:05

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

You have a relatively small turbo, and hit a peak boost of 23psi, which is not much more boost than you can run on pump gas... Ideal setup for e85? Probably not, but hey it works... Do you know what the IDC was?

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#90 2017-07-27 08:38:15

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

itsnotmeitsyou wrote:

Took a bit of sleuthing and found it eh?  Or did you just go back one page on this topic and see where I posted my dyno and later described how anyone could find it?   star

Unnecessary sleuthing is pretty much my thing. Derp wink

Pretty amazing how the torque curve changes from the 4EAT to the 6 speed. Which do you like better?

Do you happen to know how much timing you're running at peak torque?

Could you elaborate on the "Built 2.5L shortblock"?

Since we've got your attention...what other notable driveline/suspension mods do you have going on?

Oh, one more thing--this is on E85, correct? How has your fuel system held up over time? Any issues with lines/fuel pump/filters/injectors wearing out? Do you daily drive this or keep it more as a toy?

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#91 2019-09-30 01:16:41

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

I’m equally curious here about all that and congrats on the fat torque number. 2.5L torque numbers always makes me envious.


2005 satin gray metalic aero, sold. 06 wrx, adios!
2005 black aero, rescue project, jdm STi ver 7 drivetrain.
2005 desert silver aero, work horse JDM EJ205 AVCS
2002 bugeye, sedan :-( new project

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#92 2019-09-30 04:06:44

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Re: Post your Dyno Graphs

The torque with the 6mt is the true number, the 4EAT lies with the help of the torque converter.  The engine is a new STI small block with mahle pistons, arp headstuds, inconel exhaust valves on the otherwise stock (2.0l) heads.  Got a big maf, ebcs (cobb I think), and no clue what the duty cycle is for the injectors (DW850cc).  I leave such things to the tuner.


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