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#1 2006-12-13 00:20:03

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OEM foglight Install with pictures

I put together a how-to.  I purchased the Saab OEM foglight kit, which incluses the lights, covers, switch, and relay for $275.  The directions that came with the kit said to remove the whole front fascia.  I decided to do it the easier way, but removing the clips on the splash guard.

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#2 2006-12-13 02:10:53

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

nice!!!  up

And you did all that in the drive-way in the dark??   eek


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#3 2006-12-13 07:03:35

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Thanks!  Actually I have a one car garage.   I bought a house in 2005 and it was feature I really wanted.   I backed out of my garage to take the final foglight pics.

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nice!!!  up

And you did all that in the drive-way in the dark??   eek

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#4 2006-12-13 19:43:26

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

did you buy the kit from saab? my local dealer wanted almost 400 for the lights and were not sure if it came with the switch, or the relay......


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#5 2006-12-13 19:53:29

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

I got it mailorder/Internet from a Saab dealer in MA.  I think the list price is $330, which includes everything you need.  I got it for $275.  It's not the easiest install, but it's doable.

mattbr662 wrote:

did you buy the kit from saab? my local dealer wanted almost 400 for the lights and were not sure if it came with the switch, or the relay......

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#6 2006-12-13 21:35:36

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Some92x's didnt come with fog lights? What a rip.

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#7 2006-12-13 21:37:30

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

For 2006 it comes on the Aero, but not Linear.

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Some92x's didnt come with fog lights? What a rip.

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#8 2007-01-27 09:43:22

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Was the wiring already there or did it come with the kit?


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#9 2007-01-27 10:34:14

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

It's all pre-wired.


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#10 2007-01-27 12:46:21

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Looks great but why not go aftermarket with the fogs, the Aero fogs are simply for decoration.  biggrin


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#11 2007-01-29 18:32:58

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Sorry, I disagree.  I use mine all the time and I like how it fills in the lower part of the road with light.  I wanted lights that fit perfectly and a switch that is OEM.  Many aftermarket kits I have seen look like hack jobs.  I am sure it can go okay, but with the OEM kit I was assured a good installation. 

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Looks great but why not go aftermarket with the fogs, the Aero fogs are simply for decoration.  biggrin

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#12 2007-01-29 18:33:41

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

The wiring is there.  The wires are taped up with narrow blue tape.

TGlovka wrote:

Was the wiring already there or did it come with the kit?

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#13 2007-01-29 18:50:51

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

pstauff wrote:

Sorry, I disagree.  I use mine all the time and I like how it fills in the lower part of the road with light.  I wanted lights that fit perfectly and a switch that is OEM.  Many aftermarket kits I have seen look like hack jobs.  I am sure it can go okay, but with the OEM kit I was assured a good installation. 

eurospek wrote:

Looks great but why not go aftermarket with the fogs, the Aero fogs are simply for decoration.  biggrin

fogs are to fill the sides, not in front of the headlights.  if you need light to fill in front of the low beams, then you aren't driving far enough ahead so to speak.

as for aftermarket kits ... you don't use the switch/wiring .. you just use the factory wiring

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#14 2007-01-29 19:56:59

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

pstauff wrote:

Sorry, I disagree.  I use mine all the time and I like how it fills in the lower part of the road with light.  I wanted lights that fit perfectly and a switch that is OEM.  Many aftermarket kits I have seen look like hack jobs.  I am sure it can go okay, but with the OEM kit I was assured a good installation. 

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Looks great but why not go aftermarket with the fogs, the Aero fogs are simply for decoration.  biggrin

That is not actually a good thing. The nature of vision is to look at the brightest (non-painful) area within the field of view. With OEM fogs, the area is MUCH too close to the front of the car, i.e. the driver is NOT looking ahead, the key to safe driving. The factory fogs have way to short a focal length. To test things, I rigged my fogs to work with the parking lights, which is what is necessary for some of the really heavy fog/snow that I get around here. With optically good fogs (like some of my previous cars, Hella 181's, to a much lesser degree, the //S6) you are generally good to go up to about 45 - 50 MPH, IOW, you can get home. In some conditions, this exceeds safe traction limits, meaning you're looking ahead of what's needed. With the Saabaru, dispite every effort to aim them, they're good to about 15 - 20 MPH. (Oh, BTW, I live where it is truely dark). Well, you could get home. Slowly. Definitely below the traction limit. And probably running into something.

They are NFG.

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#15 2007-01-29 20:00:17

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Trev wrote:

pstauff wrote:

Sorry, I disagree.  I use mine all the time and I like how it fills in the lower part of the road with light.  I wanted lights that fit perfectly and a switch that is OEM.  Many aftermarket kits I have seen look like hack jobs.  I am sure it can go okay, but with the OEM kit I was assured a good installation. 

eurospek wrote:

Looks great but why not go aftermarket with the fogs, the Aero fogs are simply for decoration.  biggrin

fogs are to fill the sides, not in front of the headlights.  if you need light to fill in front of the low beams, then you aren't driving far enough ahead so to speak.

as for aftermarket kits ... you don't use the switch/wiring .. you just use the factory wiring

Fogs aren't just necessarily to fill in the sides. They are designed to cut below the glare level of the driver (at least good ones). I've owned plenty of good fogs that have forward projection, just nowhere near as far as low beams. Most of the better ones were made by Hella, and allow safe driving up to near highway speeds in adverse vision conditions. There is no way the Saabaru fogs will do that. They, like most factory fogs, are decoration.

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#16 2007-01-29 22:38:23

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

IOW?  NFG?

*edit*  Oh, and my ex's Elantra had good factory fogs.  Go figger.

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#17 2007-01-30 02:28:17

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Great writeup!


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#18 2007-01-30 10:00:27

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

iamchris wrote:

IOW?  NFG?

*edit*  Oh, and my ex's Elantra had good factory fogs.  Go figger.

IOW - In Other Words

NFG - No F_ _ _ in' Good

As for the Elantra fogs, how good were they with the low beams off.....?


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#19 2007-02-07 13:02:38

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

would aftermarket lamps work with the OEM wiring and swtich?


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#20 2007-02-07 13:19:51

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Of course they'll work...after a good splicing jog.

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#21 2015-02-22 16:53:14

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Thank you. Very helpful up

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#22 2018-01-10 13:02:22

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Okay so Iím hoping to revise this thread after 3 years, hopefully I donít get flamed too bad... Iíve searched and searched, but Iím ignorant to all this. So- if I buy the Micro DE fogs, black plastic fillers (of course now I forget the real name but you know which I mean) and set out for a day of work, what else might I need or expect to make this work properly on my 05 Aero? Iím pretty sure Iíve read the Micro DE plugs into stock wiring. The black trim is easy to replace, literally bolt on. Iím also probably going to follow another user here did and use a specific wheel caps to fill in the gap the Micros leave. Assuming that all falls together correctly, do I have working fogs? Or is it much for invasive to wire and get correct figment etc. Iím really a noob so I hope someone can make me feel confident in this job. I would consider stock if they can do the job, Iíve just heard enough negative to strongly favor upgrading. Also if I forgot to mention, it had fogs theyíre just broken

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#23 2018-01-11 00:18:04

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

Stock are worthless.  I added them to a car that had no fog lights and I honestly couldn't tell if they were on when I was driving.  Micro DE were noted as the light of choice, but I never tried them.  I took my OEM ones out and sold them, and put the plastic screens back in.


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#24 2019-03-17 16:30:02

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Re: OEM foglight Install with pictures

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/subar … 77%2C49211
Had these installed by FAST in the Saabaru. If they were aimed higher and longer, they'd be bright enough to replace your headlights. In winter/ early spring, they're great for helping you see and hopefully avoid potholes.


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